ok bible scholars, do i have this right?.
jehoopla promised the israelites lots of great stuff in the promised land, but they didn't believe him so they sent spies to check it out.
they came back with fruit so large it had to be carried on a branch by 2 men.. from this, dubs believe they are going to have strawberries the size of king king's skull when they get to their own promised land (the new system).
In comparison to Israelites, the people of the land were giants. But the grapes were normal size.
Numbers chapter 13:32,33all the people whom we saw in the midst of it are men of extraordinary size. 33 And there we saw the Neph′i·lim, the sons of A′nak, who are from the Neph′i·lim; so that we became in our own eyes like grasshoppers, and the same way we became in their eyes.”
jeroboam built high places for calve worship, created his own priests, created his own sacred day of worship, and was just all around a bad man.
1 kings chapter 12.
man of god did not engage in false worship, did not have tons of money, did not have a harem of beautiful women, and did not have the power of a kingdom.
Jeroboam built high places for calve worship, created his own priests, created his own sacred day of worship, and was just all around a Bad Man. 1 Kings chapter 12
Man of God did not engage in false worship, did not have tons of money, did not have a harem of beautiful women, and did not have the power of a Kingdom. He probably never married because he was a pioneer in his time seeking the Kingdom first. (Doesn’t mean he couldn’t dream about Ab′i·shag the Shu′nam·mite) Especially on lonely nights!
1 Kings 13 This Man of God was ordered to go condemn Jeroboam for introducing false worship to 10 tribes of Israel. This he did and it made Jeroboam furious. Jeroboam give the command;
(1 Kings 13:4) “YOU men, grab hold of him!” Immediately his hand that he had thrust out against him became dried up, and he was not able to draw it back to himself.
Jeroboam cries to the man of the [true] God and this is what happens:
1 kings 13:6 At this the man of the [true] God softened the face of Jehovah, so that the king’s hand was restored to him.
Jeroboam is so grateful that he invites the Man of God to have a meal with him, but the Man of God declines because Jehovah told him not to EAT BREAD OR DRINK WATER and take a different route.
The Man of God was tricked by another prophet;
(1 Kings 13:18) “I too am a prophet like you, and an angel himself spoke to me by the word of Jehovah, saying, ‘Have him come back with you to your house that he may eat BREAD and drink WATER.’” (He deceived him.)
Final outcome for Man of God who served God all his life and sacrificed everything:
(1 Kings 13:21, 22) “This is what Jehovah has said, ‘For the reason that you rebelled against the order of Jehovah, but you went back that you might eat BREAD and drink WATER in the place.. (DEATH TO YOU BABY) And he got on his way. Later a lion found him on the road and put him to death.
The Man of God was DESTROYED for EATING BREAD and DRINKING WATER.
Final outcome for Jeroboam
(1 Kings 13:33) Jer·o·bo′am did not turn back from his bad way,
The Watchtower always used examples like this to emphasize how important it is to be obedient to every single detail coming from the Governing Body.
And I fell for it.
But now I see it differently
Man of the God sacrifices a normal life and serves God all his life but gets slaughter for being tricked into eating Bread and drinking Water?
Jeroboam does not serve God and lives possibly 50-70 years and is King of Israel with lots of women, power, money and your own altars of calves? Plus you can always ask a Man of God to restore you shriveled hand and it will be restored. But you will never be destroyed for eating BREAD and DRINKING WATER.
what does the bible really teach page 110....
why does god allow suffering?.
the wt uses the illustration of a math teacher who is challenged by a student that the math problem can be worked out a different way.
Prologos may be right. Either they are trying to get rid of critical thinkers or trying to dumb down whoever gets a bible study.
Or maybe the leaders of the WT are just stupid, ignorant fools.
debating this was going to be the last day in field service was not hard after dealing with a nasty mess because i was grouped with the misfits of the kingdom hall!
i was reading this website on my phone while something started to stink in my car and one of the weird kids nobody wanted to work with yelled "hey, you leaking all over my seat, he was freaked out too!
" the older, retired elder, his pioneer daughter had forgotten to put his depends on and that became my problem.
did not the levites retire at 70?
(Numbers 8:25) . . .But after the age of fifty years he will retire from the service company and serve no longer.
Jws shouldn't go in Field service after 50, it's scriptural.
debating this was going to be the last day in field service was not hard after dealing with a nasty mess because i was grouped with the misfits of the kingdom hall!
i was reading this website on my phone while something started to stink in my car and one of the weird kids nobody wanted to work with yelled "hey, you leaking all over my seat, he was freaked out too!
" the older, retired elder, his pioneer daughter had forgotten to put his depends on and that became my problem.
The elders as stupid as usual, said "hey, we can spray some Windex on your seats and I have some RVs we can do, it's only water!"
You could have offered those elders a drink of water!
what does the bible really teach page 110....
why does god allow suffering?.
the wt uses the illustration of a math teacher who is challenged by a student that the math problem can be worked out a different way.
What does the Bible really teach page 110…
Why Does God Allow Suffering?
The WT uses the illustration of a math teacher who is challenged by a student that the math problem can be worked out a different way. The math teacher steps back and allows the student to solve the problem on his own to show the class that the student is incapable of solving the problem. The student fails. The math teacher is vindicated and everyone is happy.
Jehovah in like manner allows humans to rule independently without his involvement to prove they are incapable of ruling themselves. And that my friend is the reason why humans have killed thousands with atomic bombs, and hundreds of thousands have died in tsunamis, and millions are born with all kinds of defects, and thousands are killed in terrorist’s acts, etc.
Aren’t you glad you know the TRUTH?
But wait----------- the illustration is not correct.
No one gets hurt in the math class.
The illustration should be more like a Chemist showing students how to build a bomb with Sarin Gas. The student with no experience challenges the Chemist that the bomb can be built faster and better his way. The Chemist-Teacher allows the student to prove his point and steps out of the room and out of the building. The student blows up everything killing 50% of the students, maiming 25% of the students, and scarring the rest of the survivors with all kinds of sicknesses.
The Chemist is an irresponsible idiot to allow an inexperience student to take control of the class and would be prosecuted by the authorities for allowing such a thing to happen.
When you have time to think about it, the Watchtower’s illustrations suck.
not sure if my title is correct.
what i noticed is that in say secular bible research documentation, books, lectures etc, one never (or at least i have never read it) reads a quote from one of the former or current wbts leaders nor do i ever see a reference to one of their publication (unless it is article about the jw/wbts itself).. for example, if you read a book on a bible theme or topic written by a scholar or other bible teachers/professors from prof xyz, you will find often in these books a reference to publications / statements / quotes from other scholars or professors.
but never have i seen a reference to say a wt publication or quote / statement from one the leaders of the organisation.. so, despite the million page printed or conferences organised by the wbts, the material apparently is never considered of value to others or to use as reference material.. in my view, that says a lot..... or am i wrong?
But never have I seen a reference to say a WT publication or quote / statement from one the leaders of the organisation.
Why would anyone want to quote a statement from one of the leaders of the WT?
i havent gone to meetings in about 1 year and a half.
one of my neighbors who is a jw-lady told me that the co on the last visit said that its very likely that right after armageddon (which is just around the corner) the present governing body members will be in charge of the united states since they are familiar with the culture.
and that the apostles and early christians will be in charge of areas like china.
James Mixon
"Brother if
you sport a mustache you may miss out when the big one comes, Angeles can
not read the heart, you may appear to look like a worldly person".
I should have walked then.
Me to!
i havent gone to meetings in about 1 year and a half.
one of my neighbors who is a jw-lady told me that the co on the last visit said that its very likely that right after armageddon (which is just around the corner) the present governing body members will be in charge of the united states since they are familiar with the culture.
and that the apostles and early christians will be in charge of areas like china.
There are many JWS CO in their 80's so you expect some dementia from some of these men.
attending at the Halls swallow everything up with glowing appreciative respect. ... they've just been given new light
You said it all so clearly I wish I could go back to my neighbor and quote your words.
i havent gone to meetings in about 1 year and a half.
one of my neighbors who is a jw-lady told me that the co on the last visit said that its very likely that right after armageddon (which is just around the corner) the present governing body members will be in charge of the united states since they are familiar with the culture.
and that the apostles and early christians will be in charge of areas like china.
